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#1 ? PromoTheRobot?
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:00 PM
Okay, it's not exactly Bills-related but it's big news and the Bills stuff is pretty slow right now. Not that this will solve the bitching but it's still better than just 2 teams vying.
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#2 ? ajzepp?
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:42 PM
I HATED the fact that college didn't have a playoff. I've always thought it was completely stupid how the figured a national champion and felt I'd become a much bigger fan of college ball with a playoff system in place. That being said, clearly this is not a perfect solution, but it's a step in the right direction and I'm thrilled with the news. I'd much rather be wrong about the 5th place team than I would the 3rd place one...this gets us one step closer to truly deciding it on the field instead of letting some computer nerd figure out the best "formula". I don't really like that they're waiting until 2014, especially since they're using the existing bowl structure...don't see why they can't start it next year. Maybe in 2026 they can finally go to an 8-team playoff :)
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#3 ? jeremy2020?
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:49 PM
ajzepp, on 26 June 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:
instead of letting some computer nerd figure out the best "formula".
Computer nerds didn't like it either.
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#4 ? Mark Vader?
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:52 PM
This is great news.
It's about time that college football got out of the prehistoric era.
Hopefully this is a first step to an even bigger college football playoff system.
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#5 ? Hplarrm?
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:53 PM
I love the pros because its great entertainment and these pros deserve to be paid well for the great work they do and the risks they take. However, I generally have given up on college balls (except paying some attention as it relates to whom the Bills might draft) as because quite frankly I would prefer for college to be about education.
The money ball around the contradictory phrase student/athlete just got even sillier.
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#6 ? Buffalo Barbarian?
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Posted Yesterday, 03:25 AM
About time, 64 teams here we come!!!
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#7 ? ajzepp?
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Posted Yesterday, 04:47 AM
Hplarrm, on 26 June 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:
I love the pros because its great entertainment and these pros deserve to be paid well for the great work they do and the risks they take. However, I generally have given up on college balls (except paying some attention as it relates to whom the Bills might draft) as because quite frankly I would prefer for college to be about education.
The money ball around the contradictory phrase student/athlete just got even sillier.
I'm not sure I understand how college football makes college NOT about education? People can go to school for whatever they want regardless of the fact that these major football programs exist, can't they? I honestly used to rarely pay any attention to college ball whatsoever but I've really come to enjoy it. I'm interested in the the point you're making, though, so maybe you can expound on it a bit? Maybe I don't understand what you're saying.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:39 AM
ajzepp, on 27 June 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:
I'm not sure I understand how college football makes college NOT about education? People can go to school for whatever they want regardless of the fact that these major football programs exist, can't they? I honestly used to rarely pay any attention to college ball whatsoever but I've really come to enjoy it. I'm interested in the the point you're making, though, so maybe you can expound on it a bit? Maybe I don't understand what you're saying.
Back in the day (perhaps 30 or so years ago in the distant past) when education was the priority, the football season was important but it had to fit around the class schedule of the kids. Bowl games were an extension of the season which were to some extent fought against by the academic schedule but generally the bowl games which previously were all played by January 1st did manage to expand out a bit since afterall what it first cost players was some family time during vacation.
However, this expansion was caused by a delivery of more and more $ to the participating schools and the academic schedule was forced to accomodate first 11 and then in some cases 12 games in the regular season and the bowl schedule expanded with sponsorship by the traditional 4 New Years Day (Orange, Rose, Cotton, and something else bowls) to an expanded schedule of Tostitos etc bowls. The bowls themselves with the advent of huge TV moneys allowed for enormous bribes to the participating schools and slowly but inevitably has moved to a playoff system where the colleges actually imitate the pros at finding one pretend winner per season (as I think Duane Thomas said when someone asked him if he upcoming SB was the most important day of his life he replied if it so important then why do they play it every year).
The establishmrnt of a playoff and likely inevitable expansion to something like a 64 team playoff of the huge moneymaker the NCAA basketball championship is actually a blip on our way to something like year around football. There is simply no way I can see to accomodate the needed regular season where you play for seeding and then the playoffs to advance in the tournament of this "game" which cannot be played 3 nights a week as in college but the needed healing mandates weekly games.
Spring practice used to be the ritual as players built their athletic time around the academic time of mid-terms and finals but when we go year around the tail of athletics will wag the dog of education.
The NFL side of this equation is quite interesting as it has unlike its competing major sports like baseball, basketball, and hockey has found a way to dump virtually all the training costs on college and not been forced into signing 16 year olds to contracts or paying for an enormous minor league system. However, though the NFL teams avoid this cost, the price they pay is that their athletes become adults before the teams buy their loyalty. Led by a talented tenth such as player Gene Upshaw these men have now forced the owners to not only split the pie but in fact guarantee them a majority of the gross receipts.
My sense is one of the next steps is going to be players looking at the $6 billion payout I have seen estimated as the cost of broadcasting the playoff games and we will see the student/athletes effectively organizing to demand their cut.
The illusion of the student/athlete will receed further into the distance of reality and who knows what will come of it.
At least the Ivys will still emphasize academics over athletics with no playoff system and a focus on education as the rational for teams working to play well together, but who knows where the balance between education and athletics will fall. The two are not necessarily opposed to each other but there is a balance which must be found between the two. The advent of the football playoff simply means that the balance is now going to go way over to the side of athletic entertainment.
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Gotta love the hypocrisy and corruption of college football:
In 2010, Rick Baker, president of the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic, said, "A playoff system would ruin the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic."
Tuesday, Rick Baker, president of the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic, said, "It's a great day for college football. We congratulate the conference commissioners and presidents for their diligent work to enhance the postseason."
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#10 ? Luxy312?
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eball, on 27 June 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:
Gotta love the hypocrisy and corruption of college football:
In 2010, Rick Baker, president of the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic, said, "A playoff system would ruin the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic."
Tuesday, Rick Baker, president of the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic, said, "It's a great day for college football. We congratulate the conference commissioners and presidents for their diligent work to enhance the postseason."
It's a joke. Unfortunately, it's one of those jokes that isn't funny....and about cancer.....and killing puppies.
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#11 ? reddogblitz?
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Posted Yesterday, 02:16 PM
I suppose it is better than what we have now, but not much. You still got a beauty/popularity contest to see who gets one of the 4 spots.
I say put everyone in a conference. 8 or 16. Then let the conference champs play down to a winner. It's not complicated really.
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#12 ? Simon?
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Posted Yesterday, 02:21 PM
So all they did was add two games to the schedule and they think that's going to fix one of the biggest ongoing jokes in all of sports? I haven't bothered with college ball in a long time and this isn't likely to change that stance. If they want me and many others back, then they can give me a call when they decide to stop embarrassing themselves and address this in a manner that doesn't make everybody look like a bunch of crap-throwing monkeys.
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reddogblitz, on 27 June 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:
I suppose it is better than what we have now, but not much. You still got a beauty/popularity contest to see who gets one of the 4 spots.
I say put everyone in a conference. 8 or 16. Then let the conference champs play down to a winner. It's not complicated really.
I very much agree, but I know a lot of people who don't.
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Posted Yesterday, 04:10 PM
eball, on 27 June 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:
Gotta love the hypocrisy and corruption of college football:
In 2010, Rick Baker, president of the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic, said, "A playoff system would ruin the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic."
Tuesday, Rick Baker, president of the AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic, said, "It's a great day for college football. We congratulate the conference commissioners and presidents for their diligent work to enhance the postseason."
Especially since Jerry Jones is going to bid for the National Championship Game every few years, making the Cotton Bowl the title game.
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Faustus, on 27 June 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:
I very much agree, but I know a lot of people who don't.
I'm with you guys. At least 8 teams, but 16 teams with all 11 conference winners getting a playoff spot would be ideal. Whats always the 1st rule/goal in college sports? Win your conference.
But, the 4 team playoff is a step in the right direction, and now it seems like only a matter of time before the bowls are rendered largely irrelevant and the playoff is expanding.
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#16 ? The Senator?
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Ramius, on 27 June 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:
I'm with you guys. At least 8 teams, but 16 teams with all 11 conference winners getting a playoff spot would be ideal. Whats always the 1st rule/goal in college sports? Win your conference.
But, the 4 team playoff is a step in the right direction, and now it seems like only a matter of time before the bowls are rendered largely irrelevant and the playoff is expanding.
It's good to see the NCAA powers-that-be are finally listening to...
Mike Leach
"I think it's tremendous progress," said Washington State coach Mike Leach, a playoff proponent. "Five years ago there wasn't even dialogue about a playoff. Instead of diving in the water, they dipped their toes in. I think it's going to be ridiculously exciting and it's going to generate a bunch of money. I wish they dived in. I want more than four; 16 is better. I'd like to have 64. I think it would be a lot of fun..."
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#17 ? BillyBaroo?
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Posted Yesterday, 07:30 PM
Ramius, on 27 June 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:
I'm with you guys. At least 8 teams, but 16 teams with all 11 conference winners getting a playoff spot would be ideal. Whats always the 1st rule/goal in college sports? Win your conference.
But, the 4 team playoff is a step in the right direction, and now it seems like only a matter of time before the bowls are rendered largely irrelevant and the playoff is expanding.
It is a step - but I would be more for 8 teams- it would only take 3 weeks which the bowl season spans anyways and would give 7 games - enough for any major bowl to get in on if they wanted
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#18 ? Steve O?
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BillyBaroo, on 27 June 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:
It is a step - but I would be more for 8 teams- it would only take 3 weeks which the bowl season spans anyways and would give 7 games - enough for any major bowl to get in on if they wanted
Here is my version of the 8 team playoff: New Years day - Top 8 teams play (in my perfect scenario they would play in the bowl games of my childhood, Cotton, Orange, Sugar, and Rose) This is followed by a 5-10 day break for the players before they start preparing for the semi finals, which will be held the day before the NFL championship games. So there would be semi-final Saturday for college followed by Championship Sunday for the NFL College championship game will be held the following weekend, the bye week before the Super Bowl. Never happen but if it did I would truly be footballed out and ready for a break from watching it.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:14 PM
I have come to like college football more than in the past because of the atmosphere in those stadiums. My wife and I met at a small college with no football team. When we see those stadiums (sometimes filled with 100k+ fans) it is almost beyond comprehension. The bands are a nice touch too. And sometimes the crowd shots make it worth while... :thumbsup:
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Posted Yesterday, 11:20 PM
The Senator, on 27 June 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:
It's good to see the NCAA powers-that-be are finally listening to...
Mike Leach
"I think it's tremendous progress," said Washington State coach Mike Leach, a playoff proponent. "Five years ago there wasn't even dialogue about a playoff. Instead of diving in the water, they dipped their toes in. I think it's going to be ridiculously exciting and it's going to generate a bunch of money. I wish they dived in. I want more than four; 16 is better. I'd like to have 64. I think it would be a lot of fun..."
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I agree with the coach for sure. Would have been nice to have at least 8, but clearly it's moving things in the right direction.
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'It just worked out, and I love the song,' she tells MTV News about collaborating with Adam Young on the just-released track. By Jocelyn Vena, with reporting by Christina Garibaldi
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Carly Rae Jepsen and Owl City's thumping summer anthem "Good Time" might already be stuck in your head even though it only made its official debut days ago. When Jepsen first heard the song, she knew that she wanted to be part of that kind of magic.
"Actually [I found out about the track] through [my manager] Scooter Braun. He sort of played me the song in one of the first weeks I came down to L.A. to meet him," she recalled to MTV News on Tuesday at the splashy "Katy Perry: Part of Me" premiere in Los Angeles. "I heard it and I was just like, 'This is amazing. I would love to sing on this.' "
Lucky for the "Call Me Maybe" singer, Owl City himself, Adam Young, felt the same way. She added, "[Braun was] like, 'Great, 'cause Adam wants you too.' So it just worked out, and I really ... love the song."
Young shared a similar excitement about the track, which will not only appear on Jepsen's September debut but also on his release, The Midsummer Station, due in August.
"It was this whole worlds-collide thing, and it was this kind of dream come true. I can't believe it happened," he told MTV News last week. "[It was] so kind to lend her talent to this song, so yeah, it worked out. ... I feel like it's one of those songs, it kind of always needed to be a duet. That was the initial idea from step one."
As for his desire to write a party track, he added that now was as good a time as any. "I feel like every artist is inherently granted one shot to sing about having a good time in his or her life, and six months ago, I realized I hadn't cashed in my chips yet," Young said. "So I thought, 'I'm gonna sit down and I'm gonna give this a shot ... and get my friend Carly to sing on it.' ... The final product rarely exceeds your expectations, and this thing just kind of happened."
When someone claims they're good at rock-paper-scissors, they're usually just trying to psyche you out so they can predict your next move. But this robot, created by the Ishikawa Oku Laboratory in Japan,?doesn't need to psyche you out, because it knows it will beat you every single time.
How can it do it? One thing it certainly doesn't do is any kind of high-level analysis of the game. It doesn't put your last sequence of moves through a complex semantic analysis and try to predict the move. It doesn't use anti-random tactics like "five scissors in a row" to throw you off. All it needs is a high-speed camera and quick reflexes.
Yes, the robot cheats. By watching the image from a camera that can determine the position of your hand every millisecond, it is aware of your move the very moment you make it. And as soon as your hand starts to form that rock, the robot is giving you some paper to wrap it up. At the very end of the video, you can see the tiny delay between the human making a move and the robot reacting ?? but it happens so fast that you wouldn't notice except when shown in slow-motion.
Doesn't seem fair, does it? But since humans can't see or react on a millisecond timescale, such a tactic would never even be considered. It's precisely because reaction time doesn't come into it that rock-paper-scissors?becomes a game of psychology or dumb luck. Similarly, our vision isn't good enough to read a person's cards in the reflection of their eyes, and we're not skillful enough with our hands to control the outcome of dice.
Robots, on the other hand, could be fast enough, far-sighted enough, or precise enough that they could do any of those things. In this case, the robot can think and react in the time it takes you to make your play. Sure it's cheating ?? but it's still quite a trick.
The lab built the setup to show how quickly a robot arm and vision system could accommodate human input; that hand could just as easily be remotely operating in a hostile area or amplifying those movements to pick up construction materials. They have many other interesting?projects along this line documented on their Web?page.
Of course, what everyone wants to know is: What happens if they build a second one and have them play each other?
Devin Coldewey is a contributing writer for msnbc.com. His personal website is?coldewey.cc.
Campaign Funding: The attorney general of New York is investigating contributions to tax-exempt groups that are heavily involved in political campaigns, focusing on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, The New York Times reports.
Apple v. Samsung: A California federal judge on Tuesday backed Apple Inc's request to stop Samsung Electronics selling its Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet in the United States, giving the iPhone maker a significant win in the global smartphone and tablet patent wars, Reuters reports.
Under Fire: Philip Falcone, the billionaire hedge-fund manager whose largest investment went bankrupt after being blocked by regulators, may be sued by the Securities and Exchange Commission as soon as this week, Bloomberg reports.
Reinstated: The University of Virginia governing board voted unanimously Tuesday to reinstate Teresa Sullivan as president, more than two weeks after board leaders had forced her to resign and unleashed a storm of campus upheaval, the Washington Post reports.
Mega-Fine: A European court on Wednesday upheld most of a massive fine levied against Microsoft by the European Commission's competition watchdog, closing a case against the software giant that began in 1998, the Associated Press reports.
Zynga said it is boosting support for synchronous multiplayer tournaments in its games. The company's starting with its recent arcade title Bubble Safari, which is a Match 3-type puzzle game where players have to match up three types of fruit in a row by shooting a cannon. Synchronous multiplayer basically means two or more people can compete with each other in real-time. Historically, Zynga has focused on asynchronous (or turn-based) play because it's easier for casual gamers to fit gameplay into their daily lives. In the new mode, you can either play with Facebook friends or strangers. Each game is 90 seconds. There's also chat so players can trash talk each other on the side. Developers also can tap into this platform, and offer special prizes on a leaderboard.
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I know this comment was meant well, regarding my article explaining why cats leave us presents of dead prey:
As interesting as I found this article I am a little bit shocked that you are encouraging the cat to continue killing, I am from Australia and as much as cats are pets they are also feral and what they are killing as a gift to us is native birds and wildlife, we should be teaching our cats that what they are doing is not okay by reacting negatively towards this act and encourage them in other fields so they are eventually conditioned to know that we will love them no matter what, and especially when they aren?t harming another living creature.
Despite professing a love for nature, the commenter is displaying a fundamental misunderstanding of nature.
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I certainly don?t encourage cats to hunt; my own, very strong, preference is to keep my cats inside. But not everyone does that; and in any case, cats are born to do it.
As solitary predators, cats don?t have the advantage of a pack. As a ground-bound mammal, they don?t possess the physical edge of flight. All things considered, cats might be the most amazing hunting animal on earth.
It turns out that cats actually protect birds by killing rodents, who are deadly menaces to birds; far more of a danger than cats, who prefer to catch and eat rodents.
My article does not ?encourage the cat to continue killing.? It simply explains the behavior of what is, after all, a beautifully fashioned working predator. We aren?t going to condition a cat out of millions of years of survival instincts. It?s not possible.
Every living being is a bundle of all that has gone before; millions of years of built-in brain templates that are still here because they got us here. Cats are as much a gift of nature as any other part of wildlife. Just as we are; predators, both of us.
It?s not that I?m not sympathetic to the humanitarian concerns involved in deciding not to eat animals. But as long as we take pills, use roads, and read books; we are using animal products. These search engine results show the difficulty of trying to live in a world without animal products.
There?s a good reason it is so difficult to avoid animal products, and why vegan diets are so tricky to stick with long-term. Civilization cannot exist without animals; they are part of the cycle of Life for all of us. This is why I think a better strategy is to encourage humane animal practices, because none of us are getting along without all of us.
The comment expresses what I call the Vegan Fallacy. It would be nice to think we can all live happily as vegans on a planet where even vegetables can grow in sterile soil that nothing has ever died in. But that is a fantasy; it is not reality.
Plants grow in soil full of nutrients that are based on animals returning their elements to the earth. Animals live by eating other living beings; plant or animal. On and on it goes, the inescapable cycle of Life.
Because the wishful-thinking alternative is a place where nothing can die; and nothing can grow or live, either. Just as magnets have positive and negative poles, and there can be no yin without yang, so there is no life without death.
A place without death is also a place without babies and puppies and kittens.
I don?t want to live in a world without babies and puppies and kittens.
For more about how a cat?s survival instincts need support, see Are cats savage?
Got here from a Link or Search? There?s more ways to understand our cat with The Way of Cats than the article you are reading now. See all of my posts on WHY CATS DO THAT.
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Zynga said it is boosting support for synchronous multiplayer tournaments in its games. The company's starting with its recent arcade title Bubble Safari, which is a Match 3-type puzzle game where players have to match up three types of fruit in a row by shooting a cannon. Synchronous multiplayer basically means two or more people can compete with each other in real-time. Historically, Zynga has focused on asynchronous (or turn-based) play because it's easier for casual gamers to fit gameplay into their daily lives. In the new mode, you can either play with Facebook friends or strangers. Each game is 90 seconds. There's also chat so players can trash talk each other on the side. Developers also can tap into this platform, and offer special prizes on a leaderboard.
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